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		<title>By: 2010 in review &#171; Enlightened tradition</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[2010 in review &#171; Enlightened tradition]]></dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Brooks</title>
		<link>http://blog.tarn.org/2009/03/28/social-norms-and-knowledge-sharing/#comment-992</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 05:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Macronormative theory is where our energies should be focused. I would learn more from your comments above if they were contextualized a little more broadly, within a theory of when norms work and when they don&#039;t. Sociologists should not help pop culture economics appropriate the term &quot;market norms&quot; without demonstrating that it isn&#039;t what economists think it is.

Your comments are off the Mark, if I may be cheeky. As it is not helpful to reduce norms to calculations, it is also not helpful to reduce real means-ends calculations to norms. 

Sociologically, market norms are valid only in situations where the normative meaning of money is stable. In other words, market norms, e.g. cognitive comparisons of what one&#039;s time ought to be worth, can become &quot;calculations&quot; only when money&#039;s value is symbolic and not real, that is, not really immediately important as a resource. The lawyer&#039;s dignity is offended by a wage cut because she already has enough money in the bank.

Put differently, market norms only operate when one&#039;s consciousness is captured by his class location and not by his real needs (which are, in his class position, already systematically organized) or by another social structure (family the usual example).

From your micro perspective, the perspective of employers, incentive structures should be designed to circumvent market norms entirely, as these norms always admit some kind of compromise on their part (however unfair, some standard of fairness). The best outcome for principles is to know and select among the things that their prospective agents actually need or want, and to then select as an incentive the thing that is least costly. Ariely assumes too much that this thing that people want is dignity, or social recognition, and you are guilty of this as well in your comments about &quot;genuine human desires&quot;. Maybe I have spent too much time around undignified grad students, but most of us are lusting after something which if recognized by those around us could be used to motivate us beyond our own sense of self-potential. Social structures should be evaluated in terms of the psychocultural potential to destabilize them.

This sounds like knowledge managers should use random combinations of cultism, sex and chocolate to motivate their employees. That would create a highly productive workforce, but we have a sense that it might not last long. So we have a catch-22: norms protect us and restrict us in equal measure. Your solution to the problem of motivating employees is to operate within the boundaries of the normative system, to take the social structure for granted, and to decontextualize it from its environment and development. Is this kind of microanalysis really defensible?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Macronormative theory is where our energies should be focused. I would learn more from your comments above if they were contextualized a little more broadly, within a theory of when norms work and when they don&#8217;t. Sociologists should not help pop culture economics appropriate the term &#8220;market norms&#8221; without demonstrating that it isn&#8217;t what economists think it is.</p>
<p>Your comments are off the Mark, if I may be cheeky. As it is not helpful to reduce norms to calculations, it is also not helpful to reduce real means-ends calculations to norms. </p>
<p>Sociologically, market norms are valid only in situations where the normative meaning of money is stable. In other words, market norms, e.g. cognitive comparisons of what one&#8217;s time ought to be worth, can become &#8220;calculations&#8221; only when money&#8217;s value is symbolic and not real, that is, not really immediately important as a resource. The lawyer&#8217;s dignity is offended by a wage cut because she already has enough money in the bank.</p>
<p>Put differently, market norms only operate when one&#8217;s consciousness is captured by his class location and not by his real needs (which are, in his class position, already systematically organized) or by another social structure (family the usual example).</p>
<p>From your micro perspective, the perspective of employers, incentive structures should be designed to circumvent market norms entirely, as these norms always admit some kind of compromise on their part (however unfair, some standard of fairness). The best outcome for principles is to know and select among the things that their prospective agents actually need or want, and to then select as an incentive the thing that is least costly. Ariely assumes too much that this thing that people want is dignity, or social recognition, and you are guilty of this as well in your comments about &#8220;genuine human desires&#8221;. Maybe I have spent too much time around undignified grad students, but most of us are lusting after something which if recognized by those around us could be used to motivate us beyond our own sense of self-potential. Social structures should be evaluated in terms of the psychocultural potential to destabilize them.</p>
<p>This sounds like knowledge managers should use random combinations of cultism, sex and chocolate to motivate their employees. That would create a highly productive workforce, but we have a sense that it might not last long. So we have a catch-22: norms protect us and restrict us in equal measure. Your solution to the problem of motivating employees is to operate within the boundaries of the normative system, to take the social structure for granted, and to decontextualize it from its environment and development. Is this kind of microanalysis really defensible?</p>
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		<title>By: Book review: Made to Stick &#171; Enlightened tradition</title>
		<link>http://blog.tarn.org/2009/03/28/social-norms-and-knowledge-sharing/#comment-585</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Book review: Made to Stick &#171; Enlightened tradition]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] this work. In some respects, therefore, this can be read as a companion, practical, volume to Predictably Irrational. There is a close relationship between our human respect for stories and the behavioural economics [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this work. In some respects, therefore, this can be read as a companion, practical, volume to Predictably Irrational. There is a close relationship between our human respect for stories and the behavioural economics [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Book Review: Generation Blend &#171; Enlightened tradition</title>
		<link>http://blog.tarn.org/2009/03/28/social-norms-and-knowledge-sharing/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Book Review: Generation Blend &#171; Enlightened tradition]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] one example of this approach. Given the tension between social and market norms that I commented on yesterday, I wonder how far this approach can be pushed [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one example of this approach. Given the tension between social and market norms that I commented on yesterday, I wonder how far this approach can be pushed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Technology news for 2009-03-28 &#124; Technology News</title>
		<link>http://blog.tarn.org/2009/03/28/social-norms-and-knowledge-sharing/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Technology news for 2009-03-28 &#124; Technology News]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 07:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Yigal Chamish: Social norms and knowledge sharing (via delicious) [...]]]></description>
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